Friday, August 22, 2008

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On Biden's name, you can link to his voting record

13 comments:

Messenger said...

And.... It's settled. And lets get on with beating down the warparty.

Indicted Plagiarist said...

Biden:

These times require more than a good soldier. They require a wise leader. A leader who can deliver. I've been disappointed in my friend, John McCain, who gave in to the right wing of his party and yielded to the very 'Swift Boat' politics that he once so deplored. Folks, campaigns for presidents are a test of character and leadership.

Works for me!

Boris said...

In the primaries, Obama ran as a progressive. Now he runs toward the center as a liberal. Now, by change you can believe in means little more than:

i) Not Bush, or someone who thinks like him;
ii) Working our way, by any means possible, out of the hole that Bush left us in.

That should be enough to beat any one running in Bush's image. It's not change I can believe in, but it will satisfy the electorate.

Soros' Proxy said...

Didn't I say it had to be Biden? Yes, that's what I said. I said that in the beginning, when everyone else was parading the unthinkables before our eyes, like Bayh and Kaine. It had to be Biden.

Soros' Proxy said...

Stella, Biden's vast and varied voting record does not invalidate him as the 2nd place on the ticket, as it would at the head of the ticket.

Vigilante said...

As the scholar Steven Zunes pointed out,

"one of Obama's strongest distinctions from McCain was his wisdom and courage in opposing the invasion of Iraq. By choosing Biden, however, who was as big a backer of the war as the Republican nominee, Obama is now saying that this doesn't really matter, thereby negating one of his biggest advantages. Biden's 'experience' is that of a militarist whose contempt for international law has been apparent in hard-line positions on Iraq ..."

I am not thrilled. Far from it. But it could have been worse. Easily.

Yellow Dog said...

Biden is a good choice. Face it, Vigil: 40% Democrats believed in the Iraq war: they just blame Bush for his incompetent leadership.

As far as the veep alternatives, in arithmetic phrasing:

Joe > Hillary + Bill

Biden is a party-unifier.

Messenger said...

Along with Vigilante, I don't feel Obama's judgment is infallible. That said, having cut General Clark's feet out from under him, Barrack chose the best man left standing.

Soros' Proxy said...

Speaking of the fallibility of judgment by presidential nominees, what about Al Gore's V-P selection in 2000? Ron Klain, was a chief of staff to Vice President Al Gore and was involved in selecting a running mate for Gore in 2000. He pointed out that Gore's choice that year came down to three people: Joe Lieberman, John Kerry and John Edwards:

"He selected Lieberman, and the two men not selected in 2000 wound up being our national ticket in 2004".

Yeah, and the other one, the one Gore selected, ended up as a DINO by 2004.

IndyStar

schmog said...

Messenger, yes I would have been excited about Clark too, but I think Biden's got the chops to be VP. I wasn't saying BO's judgment is infallible, I was saying it's better than mine :-)

Vigilante said...

Wizard has a flawed essay, Welcome to Hell, Senator Biden, on his site, to which I have attached a comment. (Since I do not believe in crossposting, I link it here.

Stella said...

Yes, Soros, I think so, too. And let me applaud you for your perceptiveness. I still think Clark would have been great, but I've always liked Biden. I thought he'd be wonderful as Secretary of State, so I think he's a good choice for VP.

Now that I think about it, the Democrats had a lot of good choices. Obama must have had a difficult time picking from all the available talent.

Vigilante said...

Yes, Stella. Let's all come together. After tonight (Monday) at the DNC, all I have to say is I heart all Democrats (except for that DINO-guy who's serving as McCain's mind)! Teddy and Michelle and Maria and ...